Episode 133

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16th Jul 2024

How To Build Trust in Your Workplace Through Pay Equity and Transparency with Sally Loftis

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Welcome to "The HR L&D Podcast," your go-to source for transformative insights in the HR and L&D space.


I'm Nick Day, CEO at JGA Recruitment, A specialist HR Recruitment Search Firm and today we are joined by Sally Loftis, a champion of pay equity and transparency, from Loftis Partners LLC.


With a rich background in human resources strategy and a passion for fostering equitable workplaces, Sally brings her expertise on a topic that's crucial in today’s HR landscape—building trust through transparent pay conversations.


Sally is a Managing Director at Loftis Partners LLC which is a 100% woman-owned human resources consulting firm located in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina.


Sally also serves as a faculty member for the Centre for Trauma-Resilient Communities and lead consultant for two justice-driven consulting firms, Wayfinding Partners (Washington, DC) and Brook Graham (London, England). Sally is also a certified Appreciative Inquiry Facilitator.


In this episode we cover:

  • Pay Equity: What it is and why it’s crucial for fairness and productivity.
  • The Legal Importance of Pay Transparency: Current regulations and their impact on the workplace.
  • Salary Ranges: Reasons behind companies posting broad pay ranges in job listings and the deeper aspects of pay transparency and its implementation.
  • Engaging Remote Teams: Innovative strategies to keep your distributed team connected and motivated.
  • Building Trust Through Pay Conversations: How transparent pay practices can enhance trust within your organisation.
  • Defining Pay Transparency: A clear explanation of what pay transparency entails.
  • Success Stories: Examples of organisations effectively implementing pay equity and transparency.


Connect with Sally:

Website: https://www.loftispartners.com/about

The Pay Equity Guide for Nonprofit Organizations: https://www.amazon.com/Pay-Equity-Guide-Nonprofit-Organizations/dp/B0D4JJWS62/ref=sr[…]words=sally+loftis&qid=1718811277&sprefix=%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-1

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyloftisloftis/



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Of course, if you are an HR or L&D professional listening to this podcast and you have an HR, HRIS or L&D related vacancy that you would love some specialist HR recruitment support with – please also get in touch with me! I would love to help show you what a great HR recruitment experience feels like! You can reach out to me directly at nick@jgarecruitment.com or give me a call – 01727800377.


Thanks for listening folks – I look forward to bringing you the next episode of the HR L&D Podcast real soon!


(00:00) Introduction

(02:24) Defining Pay Equity

(05:14) Importance of Pay Transparency

(09:37) Legal Aspects of Pay Practices

(14:08) Building Trust Through Transparent Conversations

(17:59) Strategic HR Conversations

(22:06) Challenges in Recruitment and Retention

(26:25) Impact of Location on Pay Equity

(30:41) Implementing Pay Equity: Steps and Phases

(34:27) Real-Life Examples and Case Studies

(38:51) Future Trends in Pay Equity and Transparency

(42:31) Sally Loftis's Upcoming Book on Pay Equity

(45:32) Sally’s Advice for HR

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The HR L&D Podcast
Leadership, recruitment, culture. Conversations with HR's best
HR gets handed the problems nobody else wants to own. The restructure, the grievance, the engagement survey that came back badly. And then gets asked why people are leaving.

I'm Nick Day. I run an HR recruitment agency, which means I spend most of my week on the phone to HR directors, HR leaders and people leaders talking about what the job is actually like rather than what's written on the job spec. This HR Podcast came out of those calls. I kept hearing things worth repeating, and nobody was repeating them.

Every week I sit down with HR leaders, chief people officers, L&D specialists and the occasional academic who has changed how I think about work and people engagement. We get into leadership, and what happens when someone brilliant at the technical side gets promoted into managing humans.

Employee engagement past the survey score. Diversity, equity and inclusion in a climate where saying those words out loud has become a decision in itself. Pay transparency, talent management, reducing bias in hiring, HR digital transformation and the HCM systems everyone is being sold. And of course we cannot forget HR AI tools and platforms that are flooding the landscape as AI in HR becomes a hot topic every people leader is keen to understand and leverage.

Wellbeing comes up constantly, and it usually turns into the same question. Who looks after the HR team.

I'm not an HR practitioner and I don't pretend to be. I'm the person who hires them, which puts me in a useful position. I get to ask the obvious question that everyone in the room already knows the answer to and nobody says.

No script and no polite version. Mostly it's the conversation you'd have with someone doing your job at a different company, if you ever got the chance to sit down with them.

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Need HR staff? I run JGA Recruitment, an HR and payroll recruitment agency. www.jgarecruitment.com or info@jgarecruitment.com

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If payroll is closer to your world, I also host The Payroll Podcast, the most listened to payroll show in the world.

Topics include HR leadership, workplace culture, retention, people management, employee engagement, diversity, equity and inclusion, DEI strategy, AI for HR, AI recruitment tools, talent management, HR digital transformation, HCM, staff wellbeing, pay transparency, reducing bias, L&D and HR recruitment.

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